We found out last Friday who “A” (not “the”) culprit was that has been selling concentrated blocks of gold futures to depress the price. The Financial Times wrote that a mid-level trader from Barclays was nabbed and censured by FCA (British equivalent of the SEC), Zero Hedge wrote about this last Friday here. Barclays was fined 26 million pounds for not supervising properly and injuring clients. I don’t even know which humorous direction to go from here because there are so many.
First off, this “lone perpetrator” only worked for Barclays for the last 8 years while FCA says that the scheme was ongoing for 10 years. Did someone “teach” him how to sell big and very naked blocks and then just retire and pass the baton on to him? Also, are we to believe that this “rogue” trader got away with selling $10’s of billions worth of gold (and in a bull market) while the compliance department at Barclays never saw or said anything? No, not possible. Remember, this particular instance has a 10 year track record behind it, FCA never saw anything at all until just recently? Or…the CFTC? How could they have not seen this? What about before 2004, does anyone still remember the old “$6 rule?” (Yes I know that was the “2% rule” at the time just as it is now).
We are also supposed to be led to believe that all of the waterfall and concentrated smashes were done by just one trader again, not possible. If it was just this one guy, how is last April’s 36 hour waterfall period explained? 50% of total global gold production was sold in concentrated bursts in less than 2 trading days. Are we to believe that this $50 billion or so that was sold came from just one company and by just one trader within this company? $50 billion?
I usually don’t like to rant but I really can’t help myself on this one. For more than 15 years I have said that the gold and silver markets were manipulated or rigged to keep the price down, I have said on umpteen occasions that all that is needed is to pull a “time and sales” to see how much was sold and who sold it. Period. End of story. Time and sales is not a big undertaking like a “DNA” test; it’s even easier than “fingerprints.” Time and sales is a PAPER TRAIL that tells you who bought, who sold, how much and exactly at what time. It is not rocket science, it is not in any fashion a judgment call and doesn’t even need any reasoning whatsoever. Time and sales are black and white hard data that tell you who did what and when.
We have been led to believe by the numerous CFTC investigations that all is copacetic. Please remember the “wording” that they’ve used to cover their sorry bottoms, they “found nothing actionable.” They did not say they found “nothing illegal” although they probably could have because a lower gold price (which I will explain shortly) is in the “interest of national security.” So, anyone acting in this interest would not be doing anything illegal OR where the CFTC could take action.
No matter what we “conspiracy nuts” at least have a smidgeon of vindication because we now have hard evidence that effort has been made to lower the price of gold… by at least one trader. Technically, it cannot be called a “conspiracy” yet because there is only one perpetrator but… we also know that there is no way that this one single trader could have possibly sold $50 billion (40 million ounces) in just two trading days. If this were the case and the market was “honest,” any single trader that went that short would have been sniffed (squeezed) out in an epic “come to Jesus” moment by market participants. Any single trader that sold or shorted 1/2 of global gold production would have the task of eventually covering that position while a bunch of sharks circled to make this impossibility without losing an equal amount of flesh. It also stands to reason that if these bursts of selling were not “officially” sanctioned, they would have been uncovered by the week’s end. Can you imagine if this were done in the Treasury or S+P pits? No, this would never fly; the perp would end up in solitary confinement between water boardings!
OK, I mentioned above that a lower gold price is “desired” and in the interest of national security. Why is this and how can I say it? Think about it, what would a $5,000 or $10,000 price of gold mean? Did you notice the little “dollar sign” in front of the numbers? It would mean that “dollars” would be worth far far less than they are currently at $1,300. It would mean that their purchasing power is far less. It would mean that the “power” to print these pieces of paper (or electronic digital chits) is less “powerful.” The power would be less because logically they would have to print many more just to equate to current purchasing power.
From another angle, a higher gold price means a lesser level of “confidence” that would require more dollars for the same ounce of gold. Please understand that “confidence” is the only thing left that is holding up your standard of living. Confidence is the only thing left that lends “value” to your dollar bills. It is the only thing left that lends value to Treasury bonds which by the way are what your bank uses as “reserves” to claim that they are solvent in any fashion. Confidence is the only thing that is keeping the global (U.S. sponsored) Ponzi scheme from collapsing. What I have just described is “motive,” motive for a lower gold price.
In reality, I cannot believe that a British (Western) regulator would dare expose even one trader for price manipulation of gold. This is a “thread” that is now exposed and can be pulled on. Do these regulators really believe that one sacrificial lamb will be enough? Do they really believe that the public will be satisfied… or gullible enough to accept just one mid-level head to roll? This is a very dangerous precedent or gambit if you will. In my opinion, they should have just kept lying 100% because this is the way that lies come unraveled. This is like the little kid explaining to his mother that all the cookies are gone because he saw his brother eating one when he got home from school. He’s not admitting his own guilt but he is pointing a finger. “Someone” did it, he is admitting that the cookies are gone …and the lie unravels from there because he still has cookie crumbs on his face (how to explain the continuing 8AM massacres etc. after this bad bad lone trader has been shut down?).
None of this really matters because it is becoming more obvious that “all is not right” in the gold market. Austria now wants to audit their gold in London. First it was Germany who asked for an audit (and were denied) at the New York Fed and then asked to repatriate gold, now it is Austria. Will London give them the same excuses that “logistically” it will take 7 or 8 years? Remember, Germany only received 5 tons total of gold last year out of 300 (out of 1,500 “held”) that was promised. The FCA truly boo booed on this one because they are admitting that one trader sold nonexistent gold, do they expect people to believe that this guy was the smartest (and only) person in the world to have figured out how to sell gold…that isn’t really gold? And without his firm knowing about it? Really?
I do want to make mention of a piece written on the Barclays topic by Trader Dan Norcini recently. Dan is a really good guy and I have learned much from him over the years. We had a back and forth a couple of weeks ago regarding my piece on negative GOFO rates and what they mean. We finally agreed to disagree. We apparently also disagree on a few points regarding Barclays and I am apparently part of the “GIAMATT” (gold is always manipulated all of the time). Yes, I do believe this. I do not believe that there are any days where gold truly trades freely. Do I believe that ALL price drops are cartel driven? No, markets should and do go both up and down. Can the exact percentage numbers of 1% or 2% where gold is constantly capped to the upside be explained by anything other than pre planned programs? Can there be a $250-$500 million seller of gold every single morning at 8AM (like 5 O’clock Charlie)? In my opinion no there cannot.
Dan says that the dollar index no longer dropping is why gold stopped going up and that gold will not go higher until the index resumes its downtrend. He may be correct but the dollar index is “versus” other fiat currencies, primarily the euro. If all currencies debase at the same rate, there will be little movement in the index yet all of the currencies have debased. If the price of gold can be “managed” to lower levels then the façade of paper currency purchasing power can be maintained. There has been enough anecdotal and hard evidence dug up over the years that points to manipulation to depress the price of gold. There is certainly motive and without a doubt the “ability” through futures markets where huge leverage can be employed. There is also the “cover” of agencies like the CFTC’s monkeys who see, hear and speak no evil. I am of the opinion that TPTB cannot afford to let gold trade freely for even a single day for fear that it could ignite the derivatives time bomb but that’s just my opinion.
Dan also mentions that the central banks actually “want” higher gold prices because they are afraid of deflation; this is one part that I particularly disagree with. With the way “money” is thrown around today, a pittance $20 billion order for delivered gold in my opinion would be enough to tip the scales toward an upside panic if the Fed desired it. I cannot believe that higher gold prices could not be easily orchestrated overnight as mined supply does not meet the current demand and market prices are below the costs of mining, in other words the supply just isn’t there. The danger to the central banks as I see it is not prices going down because all they’d have to do is print up some fiat and buy gold, no, it is losing control of upside pricing. A loss of control to the upside would crack the confidence in and the credibility of the central banks themselves. Were (when, in my opinion) this to happen, they will lose their currencies and thus their ability to push and pull the levers of finance. I guess the flaw in logic that I see here is that the Fed can ALWAYS buy gold if they want to and pay for it with newly minted money. Can the Fed “always” sell gold to keep the price down? Well, yes they can as long as they have it to sell …but they can only sell what they have because gold cannot be printed. Actually upon thinking about this for just a short moment longer, what would stop the Fed from making the statement “we will buy any and all gold for $2,500 per ounce?” Would gold not immediately shoot up to $2,500? Sorry, I don’t buy the argument that the Fed wants higher gold prices and are afraid of lower prices.
I do want to say that I respect Trader Dan’s opinions but I do not agree with all of them. I know him as a top notch guy and he is obviously a top notch trader as evidenced by the fact that he is “still here” and trading. Trading is a hazardous occupation and one where just one big mistake could be enough to knock you out of the game if you are not disciplined. I would never dismiss what Dan has to say out of hand but after reading his piece, I do disagree with much of it so I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
That said, I have written many times that trying to time gold is a mugs game in my opinion. If you understand the end game then you also understand that you have to be there “when” it happens. If you purchase physical metal without margin and sit tight until the end game arrives, you will “win” so to speak. Buying dips is a great idea but if you own no metal at all currently, “you shouldn’t wait to buy gold…you should buy gold and wait.”
As I have said in my opinion for several years now, this entire scheme will come down on the day that China is told, “Sorry, we cannot deliver any more gold.” This will happen on its own or the Chinese can force it with an outsized order. It doesn’t matter which occurs first because the outcome will be the same. We will live with a much much higher price of gold and a financial system that implodes because confidence evaporated.
“That said, I have written many times that trying to time gold is a mugs game in my opinion.”
It sure is. I made my first purchase of gold about 2 weeks ago. I had thought that gold wouldn’t be going any lower and was ready to move higher. And look at what has happened this week!
Does it make any difference whether you bought 2 weeks ago or today?
No. I’m just tired of this nonsense. I fear this crap could go on for several more years.
I doubt it.
Trader Dan may be a brilliant trader but unless you are trading paper Gold his blog is fairly useless. It seems his site has become overrun by Gold bashers who simply don’t get it.
If you are holding Gold as money, as insurance, as a financial asset with no counter-party risk or simply to be out of the corrupt, overleveraged markets who are on the brink of disaster, there really is no good reason to listen to Dan because he sees Gold as just another tradable commodity.
More than anything I get annoyed by his mindless disciples who actually believe that the rigged market is the place to be and that Gold is a dead, useless asset.
there are comments on his blog that gold has been manipulated UPWARDS for a long time, no logic in that thought process.
I have read trader Dan’s articles in the past and always come away with the same view that you have. I’ve never seen him explain the massive sell orders. In any free market, massive BUY orders would be at least somewhat equal over time. Does Dan know that Greenspan said if the price of gold rose, more gold could be leased, or Volcker’s biggest regret not controlling the price of gold, and didn’t the BOE saying that the fed was instrumental in helping control the price of gold back when the UK bullion banks had problems buying to return leased gold and Brown had to sell gold at the bottom? Seems that TPTB have learned over time that it must control the price of gold as long as possible or the system will collapse more quickly.
yes, exactly
BTW Bill, your comment about fiat currencies being priced against one another is spot on as it relates to gold. The US could double its amount of currency/credit, other countries in the basket triple theirs, the dollar would strengthen but theoretically the price of gold would double because of a twofold increase in currency/credit. According to Dan, the price of gold would go down. This makes no sense to me whatsoever.
yes Doug, that is the flaw in the logic.
Doug,
You make a very good point, and there is even more to it then you mentioned. We all have heard many times that the price of gold will soar anyday the Chinese offer $5,000 an ounce for all takers; the US offers $2500, etc, etc. Yes the price of gold will go up, but the important point is that it is all relative.
The damage done (or amount of pain each person will feel) will depend on which country you live in, and the financial (and military) strength of that particular country relative to the others. We all know the US has been overspending for a long time and is technically insolvent. However, there are very few major countries in the world that are any better off, so the damage we Americans feel may not be as bad as some would lead us to believe. So I would say, have some PM’s for portfolio insurance, but don’t overdue it. The USA will still be the world leader decades from now.
I’ve found over the last couple years I tend to gravitate to Bill Holter for the bottom line.
What I’d really like to see is every document from Snowden’s trove under the search words “gold” and “silver”. That might very well settle the matter.
thanks for the confidence in my work SDF, yes that would be very interesting!
Well Bill you are a better man than me. I started sniffing out the odiferous no manipulation crap Traitor Dan was spouting a couple years ago and surmised he really has a hard time admitting the forum he makes his living is a manipulated pile of the same.
Recently he has raised the vociferiousness of his spiel and started attacking certain individuals for disagreeing with himself. Maybe he is now entering the state of mental illness as he sounds more irate by the day. While I am now hearing folks calling him Jeff Christains butt buddy and or complicit in the manipulation I am not ready to engage in those accusations. I do know I have lost almost all of the respect I had for him ~6 years ago when I started reading his work on Sinclairs blog, listening to him on KWH or reading his own blog. I don’t know if he is the poster boy for Cognitive Dissonance or he really thinks there is no manipulation….. Its truly incredible he can still convince himself there is no manipulation….Seriously?
He has dug himself a mighty deep hole and for him to admit he is wrong will take a mighty big man. Hope he surpises us on that front. The corner he has painted himself into is probably feeling real small.
I don’t want to start a pissing contest and I do like Dan as a person but we do disagree here. He has not said there is no manipulation, he says that it goes both ways. What is not credible at all is when he says that the Fed wants higher gold prices and is afraid of lower gold prices…horseshit for so many reasons I cannot count them.
Bill,
Your articles are like “cold water in your face in the morning”! It wakes you up!!
Keep stackin’ people!!
thank you SS.
So gold is around $1258 and my money buys about half the groceries it did three or four years ago. There is a disconnect there that the shenanigans will soon no longer be able to hide. I’m a GIAMATT-ite too. GOLD IS ALWAYS MANIPULATED ALL THE TIME. Thanks again Bill for, as the commenter above correctly pointed out, always giving us the bottom line.
welcome Sally.
This is classic fundamental analysis versus technical analysis. Dan and Armstrong are technical guys who live and breath the markets. Bill and other gold guys are fundamentals.
Both are correct !
Day to day the fundamentals don’t matter but over time they will.
I can’t believe “they” are gonna pound gold lower from these levels but I believe they will. Gold bottoms at the end of june( 4 short weeks) and will explode upwards in the 3rd quarter.
So if you are not a trader and worried about tomorrow’s paper price follow Bill (Thanks for your great articles Bill and Andy).
If you need to know next week’s paper gold price Dan is not a bad guy to follow either.
I sense they both mean well. 🙂
I agree, I believe that Dan does mean well.
> Trader Dan may be a brilliant trader
We don’t know.
He never published any of his trade (like Andrew maguire, Gary Wagner you can freely see their trades on their sites).
He never explain the all of the sudden massive sell off WITHOUT news.
> Dan says that the dollar index no longer dropping is why gold stopped going up and that gold will not go higher until the index resumes its downtrend.
In mid 2010 dollar index was at 88.
Today is 80.
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=DX&p=w1
Gold was at the same level as today.
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=GC&p=w1
true.
“About That Supposed Correlation of the U.S. Dollar and Gold….”
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.ch/2013/07/about-that-supposed-correlation-of-us.html
yes, which is why I said it is all a basket of fiats versus fiats, not versus anything real.
> not versus anything real.
Yes.
TIPS gives a -88 correlation with gold.
http://gavekal.blogspot.ch/2014/05/is-gold-signaling-move-higher-in-tips.html
“PaperTIPS” …you gotta love ’em. Pieces of paper that promise MORE pieces of paper!
i am not a paper expert, professional, just an amateur 🙂
King norcini is 🙂
just few tweets from new hashtag bank of england just opened “AskBoe”: https://twitter.com/hashtag/askboe?src=hash
> Is it true most of your gold is gone – yet you still claim to have it ?
> Why do banksters worldwide get rewarded for criminal activity ?
> How long will it take you to buy back all of Austria’s gold that you no longer have in your vaults?
> What do you make of Belgium spending $50BN/month on US Treasuries? Coincidence that the timing coincides with Federal Reserve taper ?
the Tweets will get much more ugly given a little time.